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#11
Hello 

I tried all version you can find the result in attached zip , below summery for my steps and output : 

- Version : 2.01.1029 - 32Bit - Stopped Without NVRAM Windows error msg
                                 64Bit - Create NVRAM
                                           ERROR:4 -  Retrieving HII Database
                                           ERROR:4 -  Dumping HII Database to File

- Version : 5.00.1048 - Create NVRAM 
                                 ERROR:4 -  Retrieving HII Database
                                 ERROR:4 -  Dumping HII Database to File

- Version : 5.03.1107 : 32Bit - Error NVRAM "Old driver v3.1 found - get version 2.00 or above."
                                 64Bit - Error Platform identification failed.

- Version : 5.03.1111 - Error Platform identification failed.

Best Regards 
Hamed


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.zip   SCEWIN-NoWr.zip (Size: 1.17 MB / Downloads: 6)
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#12
Thanks for link to other HFC/Fingerprint system, I will check and compare and see if I can figure anything. I do see it uses same exact BIOS link to exe, so as suspected this BIOS is used on both systems. So what you want can be done, either by editing settings, or changing system ID and reflash. But, either of those may not be possible if this system has "HP Sure Start" or if Intel BootGuard is active.

Do you see anything that says Sure Start in the system info/specifics/overview online? How about in the BIOS, any settings/section for Sure Start, maybe in management or security? Can you please run MEinfoWin from the Intel ME Flash Tools package I linked you to earlier, and show bottom of report in image or text (Looking for info on Measure Boot and Verified Boot on the FPF (Left) Side)

And thanks for SCEWin attempts, it's only compatible with some chipsets/BIOS, when it works it's great easy way to change some things, but doesn't always work for OEM type systems.
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#13
(12-18-2018, 11:32 PM)Lost_N_BIOS Wrote: Thanks for link to other HFC/Fingerprint system, I will check and compare and see if I can figure anything.  I do see it uses same exact BIOS link to exe, so as suspected this BIOS is used on both systems.  So what you want can be done, either by editing settings, or changing system ID and reflash.  But, either of those may not be possible if this system has "HP Sure Start" or if Intel BootGuard is active.

Do you see anything that says Sure Start in the system info/specifics/overview online?  How about in the BIOS, any settings/section for Sure Start, maybe in management or security?  Can you please run MEinfoWin from the Intel ME Flash Tools package I linked you to earlier, and show bottom of report in image or text (Looking for info on Measure Boot and Verified Boot on the FPF (Left) Side)

And thanks for SCEWin attempts, it's only compatible with some chipsets/BIOS, when it works it's great easy way to change some things, but doesn't always work for OEM type systems.

Thanks for replay ... 

It looks my device have BootGuard : active , and i see HP sure start in boot 

Here the Intel ME info 

[ME Host Status]
ME Current Working State:  Normal
Manufacturing Mode: Not Active
ME Current Operation Mode:Normal
Boot Guard Status: Enabled
Boot Guard Verified Boot Policy: Disabled
Boot Guard Measured Boot Policy: Disabled
 
[Intel Manageability Engine Features]
Intel ME Version: 12.0, Build 1122, Hot Fix 7
Intel ME Recovery Image Version: 12.0, Build 1122, Hot Fix 7
Intel ME FITC Version: 12.0, Build 1087, Hot Fix 2
Intel AMT Version: 12.0.7, Build 1122
Intel AMT Applications Version: 12.0.7
Flash Version: 12.0.7
Netstack Version:12.0.7
Recovery Version: 12.0.7, Build 1122
BIOS Version: Not available

[ME Firmware Capabilities]
Full Network Manageability: Not Capable
Standard Network Manageability: Not Capable
Manageability (AMT): Not Capable
Small Business Advantage: Not Capable
Intel Integrated Touch: Not Capable
Intel Anti-Theft: Not Capable
Capability Licensing Service: Capable
Virtualization Engine: Not Capable
Intel Sensor Hub (ISH): Capable
ICC Over Clocking: Not Capable
Protected Audio Video Path (PAVP): Capable
Network Frame Forwarder (NFF): Not Capable
Remote PC Assist (RPAT): Capable
IPV6: Not Capable
KVM Remote Control:Not Capable
Outbreak Containment Heuristic (OCH): Not Capable
Dynamic Application Loader (DAL): Capable
Cipher Transport Layer (TLS): Capable
Wireless LAN (WLAN): Not Capable
Platform Trust Technology (PTT): Not Capable
Near Field Communication (NFC): Not Capable
 


[ME Firmware Feature State]

Full Network Manageability:Disabled
Standard Network Manageability:Disabled
Manageability (AMT): Disabled
Small Business Advantage:Not Capable
MEI3:Not Capable
Intel Anti-Theft:Disabled
Capability Licensing Service:Enabled
Virtualization Engine:Disabled
Intel Sensor Hub (ISH): Enabled
ICC Over Clocking:Disabled
Protected Audio Video Path (PAVP): Enabled
Network Frame Forwarder (NFF):Not Capable
Remote PC Assist (RPAT): Enabled
IPV6:Disabled
KVM Remote Control:Disabled
Outbreak Containment Heuristic (OCH):Disabled
Dynamic Application Loader (DAL):Capable
Cipher Transport Layer (TLS):Enabled
Wireless LAN (WLAN):Disabled
Platform Trust Technology (PTT):Disabled
Near Field Communication (NFC):Disabled

[ME Firmware Platform Type]
Platform Target Usage Type:Mobile
SKU:Regular SKU
ME Firmware Image Type:Corporate SKU Firmware
Platform Brand:None
Host ME Region Flash Protection Override (HMRFPO) Status:Locked
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#14
Bootguard cannot be active if Measured Boot and Verified Boot are not enabled properly at the FPF (Burned into chipset). Check with MEInfoWin as I mentioned (Unless that is what is above, and you just reformatted the output)?, if you do not see Measure/Verified enabled on the left then bootguard cannot be active. Manufacturers often get this wrong, either forget to burn keys to FPF or forget to enable in the ME side, this one is enabled at ME Side, but not FPF it looks like. Both sides must be active and set properly for it to function.

However, your biggest issue is Sure Start, you cannot modify many of the BIOS modules/regions when this is on the system, when you do on reboot it auto-recovers, even if BIOS programmed on with flash programmer. And the settings you want to change are within the protected ranges usually. We can test with any single setting change, then you will see it auto-recover.
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#15
(12-19-2018, 10:45 PM)Lost_N_BIOS Wrote: Bootguard cannot be active if Measured Boot and Verified Boot are not enabled properly at the FPF (Burned into chipset).  Check with MEInfoWin as I mentioned (Unless that is what is above, and you just reformatted the output)?, if you do not see Measure/Verified enabled on the left then bootguard cannot be active.  Manufacturers often get this wrong, either forget to burn keys to FPF or forget to enable in the ME side, this one is enabled at ME Side, but not FPF it looks like.  Both sides must be active and set properly for it to function.

However, your biggest issue is Sure Start, you cannot modify many of the BIOS modules/regions when this is on the system, when you do on reboot it auto-recovers, even if BIOS programmed on with flash programmer.  And the settings you want to change are within the protected ranges usually.  We can test with any single setting change, then you will see it auto-recover.

Thanks for reply ... 

I get from HWiNFO64 not MEINFOWin 
i will check today again to sure and feedback you about . 

But can we change auto-recovers to manual , so it will not recover or this not help ?
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#16
Yes, please check MEinfoWin at bottom of report you will see the Measure/Verified boot and a right/left side for enabled./disabled settings. IF disabled on left at FPF then it's not possible to be active, no matter what is set on ME/Right side.

No, HP Sure Start is a major pain in the rear! There is a few versions of it, so it all depends on what is protected in your BIOS, something's you can change like CPU microcodes, or other small detail modules, but usually and BIOS region is protected. As I said, we can make a simple test file if you want, I edit one setting you have visible in BIOS already, whatever it's default value is I will change to other value, then you test and see if BIOS auto recovers after flashing.
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#17
Hello ,,,

here the result :
Enforcement Policy                           0x00        0x00        0x00
EK Revoke State                              Not Revoke  Not Revoke  Not Revoke
PTT                                          Disabled    Disabled    Disabled
OEM ID                                       0x00        0x00        0x00
OEM Key Manifest Present                     Present     Present     Present
OEM Platform ID                              0x00        0x00        0x00
OEM Secure Boot Policy                       0x444       0x444       0x444
CPU Debugging                                Enabled     Enabled     Enabled
BSP Initialization                           Disabled    Disabled    Disabled
Protect BIOS Environment                     Disabled    Disabled    Disabled
Measured Boot                                Disabled    Disabled    Disabled
Verified Boot                                Disabled    Disabled    Disabled
Key Manifest ID                              0x01        0x01        0x01
Persistent PRTC Backup Power                 Enabled     Enabled     Enabled
RPMB Migration Done                          Disabled    Disabled    Disabled
SOC Config Lock                              Done        Not Done    Done
SPI Boot Source                              Enabled     Enabled     Enabled
TXT Supported                                Disabled    Disabled    Disabled
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#18
No BootGuard active then, thanks. If you want, we can test a single change in setup module, and see if Sure Start auto recovers the BIOS, if it doesn't then we can make as many changes as we need. If you want to try that, pick some BIOS setting, make a note of it's default value and let me know, I will change it and then you can flash and see if changes applied and or auto recovery happens.
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#19
Thanks for reply ...

Okay , lets change the boot order or the GPU memory .
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#20
Boot order is not ideal, since it changes depending on other settings.
GPU memory, what is exact settings name and what do you see as default (to verify what I see as default, once I find the correct module)
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